I love how both sides of the god debate fail miserably at representing the arguments and beliefs of the other side. These are horrible arguments against the existence or even benevolence of God (or god). If you are going to enter into any debate (theological or otherwise) follow the first rule of argumentation, fairly representing the opposing side.
What it comes down to is massive amounts of equivocation.
In Christianity all sin is a perversion of that which was originally good, and for which God is the standard. So trying to argue that God sins is a fools errand that will inevitably lead to a fallacious argument. There are many arguments against Christianity however that do not end in such fallacies, educate yourselves and use these arguments instead and you shall find yourself in the company of people worth talking to.
Also, you assume that your definition of God is correct and is without sin. How do you know that God doesn't sin? Just because it is a pre-requisite for your argument to work, doesn't mean that it makes it true.
I prefer to deal with real evidence, hard fact, peer reviewed science and provable truth. When a Christian can actually dig up a couple of those, I'll consider that a real debate and pay attention. btw, I'm not going to hold my breath.
most scientists don't have hard proof either! they have some evidence that can be perceived in many different ways. they have experiments that may or may not be correct and whose outcomes can not only be manipulated in any direction, but which can also be viewed in different contexts. their theories which are just that; can not be proven and many have holes in them so big a truck could drive through them! so you are right that there is no real debate; but it is for both sides that this is true!
there is plenty of evidence for God; evidence however is not proof! science also has a little evidence; again evidence is not proof! so neither way invalidates God or science!
I love how both sides of the god debate fail miserably at representing the arguments and beliefs of the other side. These are horrible arguments against the existence or even benevolence of God (or god). If you are going to enter into any debate (theological or otherwise) follow the first rule of argumentation, fairly representing the opposing side.
Feel free to enlighten me.
Sure will do.
What it comes down to is massive amounts of equivocation.
In Christianity all sin is a perversion of that which was originally good, and for which God is the standard. So trying to argue that God sins is a fools errand that will inevitably lead to a fallacious argument. There are many arguments against Christianity however that do not end in such fallacies, educate yourselves and use these arguments instead and you shall find yourself in the company of people worth talking to.
Also, you assume that your definition of God is correct and is without sin. How do you know that God doesn't sin? Just because it is a pre-requisite for your argument to work, doesn't mean that it makes it true.
I prefer to deal with real evidence, hard fact, peer reviewed science and provable truth. When a Christian can actually dig up a couple of those, I'll consider that a real debate and pay attention. btw, I'm not going to hold my breath.
most scientists don't have hard proof either! they have some evidence that can be perceived in many different ways. they have experiments that may or may not be correct and whose outcomes can not only be manipulated in any direction, but which can also be viewed in different contexts. their theories which are just that; can not be proven and many have holes in them so big a truck could drive through them! so you are right that there is no real debate; but it is for both sides that this is true!
Lets look at this for a second:
Science: Has evidence
God: No evidence whatsoever
And that somehow validates the idea of god? Riiiight.
there is plenty of evidence for God; evidence however is not proof! science also has a little evidence; again evidence is not proof! so neither way invalidates God or science!
Definition of PROOF: Evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement.
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